ذِكْرُ خَبَرٍ ثَانٍ يُصَرِّحُ بِصِحَّةِ مَا ذَكَرْنَاهُ

Ibn Abbas said: A lunatic woman passed by Ali ibn AbuTalib. He then mentioned the rest of the tradition to the same effect as Uthman mentioned. This version has: Do you not remember that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ has said: There are three whose actions are not recorded: a lunatic whose mind is deranged till he is restored to consciousness, a sleeper till he awakes, and a boy till he reaches puberty?  

أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ﷺ قَالَ رُفِعَ الْقَلَمُ عَنْ ثَلاَثَةٍ عَنِ الْمَجْنُونِ الْمَغْلُوبِ عَلَى عَقْلِهِ حَتَّى يُفِيقَ وَعَنِ النَّائِمِ حَتَّى يَسْتَيْقِظَ وَعَنِ الصَّبِيِّ حَتَّى يَحْتَلِمَ قَالَ صَدَقْتَ قَالَ فَخَلَّى عَنْهَا سَبِيلَهَا  

[Machine] "What is this?" they said. 'Umar ordered that it be translated. He returned it and went with it to 'Umar and said, "Do you not know that the pen is raised from a madman until he becomes reasonable, from a patient until he recovers, from a sleeper until he wakes up, and from a child until he reaches the age of discernment."  

«مَا هَذِهِ؟» قَالُوا أَمَرَ بِهَا عُمَرُ أَنْ تُرْجَمَ قَالَ فَرَدَّهَا وَذَهَبَ مَعَهَا إِلَى عُمَرَ وَقَالَ «أَلَمْ تَعْلَمْ أَنَّ الْقَلَمَ رُفِعَ عَنِ الْمَجْنُونِ حَتَّى يَعْقِلَ وَعَنِ الْمُبْتَلَى حَتَّى يُفِيقَ وَعَنِ النَّائِمِ حَتَّى يَسْتَيْقِظَ وَعَنِ الصَّبِيِّ حَتَّى يَحْتَلِمَ»  

[Machine] Umar brought a madwoman who had committed adultery and he wanted to stone her. Ali said to him, "Do you not know that the pen has been lifted from three: the insane person until he regains his sanity, the child until he reaches the age of puberty, and the sleeper until he wakes up?" So, he left her. This hadith has been narrated with a sound chain of transmission from Ali, from the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ .  

أُتِيَ عُمَرُ بِامْرَأَةٍ مَجْنُونَةٍ حُبْلَى فَأَرَادَ أَنْ يَرْجُمَهَا فَقَالَ لَهُ عَلِيٌّ أَوَمَا عَلِمْتَ أَنَّ الْقَلَمَ قَدْ رُفِعَ عَنْ ثَلَاثٍ عَنِ الْمَجْنُونِ حَتَّى يَعْقِلَ وَعَنِ الصَّبِيِّ حَتَّى يَحْتَلِمَ وَعَنِ النَّائِمِ حَتَّى يَسْتَيْقِظَ «فَخَلَّى عَنْهَا» وَقَدْ رُوِيَ هَذَا الْحَدِيثُ بِإِسْنَادٍ صَحِيحٍ عَنْ عَلِيٍّ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ مُسْنَدًا صحيح فيه إرسال  

[Machine] And he said to Umar, "O Commander of the believers, did you order the stoning of this person?" Umar replied, "Yes." He said, "Don't you remember that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, 'The pen has been lifted from three: the insane person until he comes to his senses, the sleeper until he wakes up, and the child until he reaches puberty.'" Umar said, "You are correct," and he decided not to carry out the punishment. Abu Abdullah said, "Regarding stoning the insane man or woman, there is a difference of opinion among the scholars that I am not knowledgeable about."  

وَقَالَ لِعُمَرَ يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَمَرْتَ بِرَجْمِ هَذِهِ؟ قَالَ نَعَمْ قَالَ أَمَا تَذْكُرُ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ﷺ قَالَ رُفِعَ الْقَلَمُ عَنْ ثَلَاثٍ عَنِ الْمَجْنُونِ الْمَغْلُوبِ عَلَى عَقْلِهِ وَعَنِ النَّائِمِ حَتَّى يَسْتَيْقِظَ وَعَنِ الصَّبِيِّ حَتَّى يَحْتَلِمَ قَالَ صَدَقْتَ فَخَلَّى عَنْهَا قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ «بِالْحَجْرِ عَلَى الْمَجْنُونِ وَالْمَجْنُونَةِ مِمَّا لَا أَعْلَمُ فِيهِ خِلَافًا بَيْنَ الْعُلَمَاءِ»  

Ibn Abbas said: A lunatic woman passed by Ali ibn AbuTalib. He then mentioned the rest of the tradition to the same effect as Uthman mentioned. This version has: Do you not remember that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ has said: There are three whose actions are not recorded: a lunatic whose mind is deranged till he is restored to consciousness, a sleeper till he awakes, and a boy till he reaches puberty? (Using translation from Abū Dāʾūd 4401)   

وَقَالَ لِعُمَرَ يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أُتَرْجُمُ هَذِهِ؟ قَالَ نَعَمْ قَالَ أَوَ مَا تَذْكُرُ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ﷺ قَالَ «رُفِعَ الْقَلَمُ عَنْ ثَلَاثٍ عَنِ الْمَجْنُونِ الْمَغْلُوبِ عَلَى عَقْلِهِ وَعَنِ النَّائِمِ حَتَّى يَسْتَيْقِظَ وَعَنِ الصَّبِيِّ حَتَّى يَحْتَلِمَ» ؟ قَالَ صَدَقْتَ فَخَلَّى عَنْهَا  

Ibn Abbas said: A lunatic woman passed by Ali ibn AbuTalib. He then mentioned the rest of the tradition to the same effect as Uthman mentioned. This version has: Do you not remember that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ has said: There are three whose actions are not recorded: a lunatic whose mind is deranged till he is restored to consciousness, a sleeper till he awakes, and a boy till he reaches puberty? (Using translation from Abū Dāʾūd 4401)  

أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللهِ قَالَ «رُفِعَ الْقَلَمُ عَنْ ثَلَاثَةٍ عَنِ الْمَجْنُونِ الْمَغْلُوبِ عَلَى عَقْلِهِ وَعَنِ النَّائِمِ حَتَّى يَسْتَيْقِظَ وَعَنِ الصَّبِيِّ حَتَّى يَحْتَلِمَ» قَالَ صَدَقْتَ قَالَ فَخَلَّى عَنْهَا  

[Machine] Ali said to Umar, "Oh Commander of the Believers, have you ordered the stoning of so-and-so?" Umar replied, "Yes." Ali then said, "Don't you remember the saying of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ , 'The pen has been lifted from three: the sleeper until he wakes up, the child until he reaches puberty, and the insane until he regains sanity?'" Umar responded, "Yes." So he revoked the order.  

عَلِيٌّ بِمَجْنُونَةِ بَنِي فُلَانٍ قَدْ زَنَتْ وَهِيَ تُرْجَمُ فَقَالَ عَلِيٌّ لِعُمَرَ ؓ يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَمَرْتَ بِرَجْمِ فُلَانَةَ؟ قَالَ نَعَمْ قَالَ أَمَا تَذْكُرُ قَوْلَ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ رُفِعَ الْقَلَمُ عَنْ ثَلَاثٍ عَنِ النَّائِمِ حَتَّى يَسْتَيْقِظَ وَعَنِ الصَّبِيِّ حَتَّى يَحْتَلِمَ وَعَنِ الْمَجْنُونِ حَتَّى يُفِيقَ ؟ قَالَ نَعَمْ فَأَمَرَ بِهَا فَخَلَّى عَنْهَا  

[Machine] Ali encountered a woman from the tribe of Fulan who had committed adultery and was about to be stoned. Ali asked Umar, "O Commander of the Believers, did you order the stoning of this woman?" Umar replied, "Yes." Ali then reminded Umar of the saying of the Prophet ﷺ, 'The pen is lifted from three: from the sleeper until he wakes up, from the child until he reaches puberty, and from the insane until he regains sanity.' Umar acknowledged this and revoked the order. This narration is transmitted by Ata bin Sa'ib from Abu Dhubiyan as a marfu' hadith.  

مُرَّ عَلَى عَلِيٍّ بِمَجْنُونَةِ بَنِي فُلَانٍ قَدْ زَنَتْ وَهِيَ تُرْجَمُ فَقَالَ عَلِيٌّ لِعُمَرَ ؓ يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَمَرْتَ بِرَجْمِ فُلَانَةٍ؟ قَالَ نَعَمْ قَالَ أَمَا تَذْكُرُ قَوْلَ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ رُفِعَ الْقَلَمُ عَنْ ثَلَاثَةٍ عَنِ النَّائِمِ حَتَّى يَسْتَيْقِظَ وَعَنِ الصَّبِيِّ حَتَّى يَحْتَلِمَ وَعَنِ الْمَجْنُونِ حَتَّى يُفِيقَ ؟ قَالَ نَعَمْ فَأَمَرَ بِهَا فَخَلَّى عَنْهَا وَرَوَاهُ عَطَاءُ بْنُ السَّائِبِ عَنْ أَبِي ظَبْيَانَ مُرْسَلًا مَرْفُوعًا  

"رُفِعَ الْقَلَمُ عن ثلاثة: عن المجنونِ المغلوب عَلَى عقْلِهِ حتى يَبْرَأَ، وَعَن النَّائِم حَتَّى يَسْتَيقِظَ، وَعن الصَّبِىِّ حَتَّى يَحْتَلِمَ".  

"عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ امْرَأَةً مَجْنُونَةً أَصَابَتْ فَاحِشَةً فَأَمَرَ عُمَرُ بِرَجْمِهَا، فَقَالَ عَلِىٌّ: أَمَا عَلِمْتَ أَنَّ الْقَلَم مَرْفُوعٌ عَن ثَلاثَةٍ: عَنِ النَّائِم حَتَّى يَسْتَيقِظَ، وَعَنِ الْمُبْتَلَى حَتَّى يَبْرَأَ، وعَنِ الصَّبِىِّ حَتَّى يَحْتَلِمَ؟ قَالَ: بَلَى، قَالَ: فَمَا بَالُ هَذِهِ؟ فَخَلَّى سَبِيلَهَا".