ʿUmar set out along with the Prophet ﷺ with a group of people to Ibn Saiyad till they saw him playing with the boys near the hillocks of Bani Mughala. Ibn Saiyad at that time was nearing his puberty and did not notice (us) until the Prophet ﷺ stroked him with his hand and said to him, "Do you testify that I am Messenger of Allah ﷺ?" Ibn Saiyad looked at him and said, "I testify that you are the Messenger of illiterates." Then Ibn Saiyad asked the Prophet ﷺ, "Do you testify that I am Messenger of Allah ﷺ?" The Prophet ﷺ refuted it and said, "I believe in Allah and His Apostles." Then he said (to Ibn Saiyad), "What do you think?" Ibn Saiyad answered, "True people and liars visit me." The Prophet ﷺ said, "You have been confused as to this matter." Then the Prophet ﷺ said to him, "I have kept something (in my mind) for you, (can you tell me that?)" Ibn Saiyad said, "It is Al-Dukh (the smoke)." (2) The Prophet ﷺ said, "Let you be in ignominy. You cannot cross your limits." On that ʿUmar, said, "O Messenger of Allah ﷺ! Allow me to chop his head off." The Prophet ﷺ said, "If he is he (i.e. Dajjal), then you cannot overpower him, and if he is not, then there is no use of murdering him." (Ibn ʿUmar added): Later on Messenger of Allah ﷺ once again went along with Ubai bin Kaʿb to the date-palm trees (garden) where Ibn Saiyad was staying. The Prophet ﷺ wanted to hear something from Ibn Saiyad before Ibn Saiyad could see him, and the Prophet ﷺ saw him lying covered with a sheet and from where his murmurs were heard. Ibn Saiyad's mother saw Allah's Apostle while he was hiding himself behind the trunks of the date-palm trees. She addressed Ibn Saiyad, "O Saf ! (and this was the name of Ibn Saiyad) Here is Muhammad." And with that Ibn Saiyad got up. The Prophet ﷺ said, "Had this woman left him (Had she not disturbed him), then Ibn Saiyad would have revealed the reality of his case.  

أَخْبَرَهُ أَنَّ عُمَرَ انْطَلَقَ مَعَ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ فِي رَهْطٍ قِبَلَ ابْنِ صَيَّادٍ حَتَّى وَجَدُوهُ يَلْعَبُ مَعَ الصِّبْيَانِ عِنْدَ أُطُمِ بَنِي مَغَالَةَ وَقَدْ قَارَبَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ الْحُلُمَ فَلَمْ يَشْعُرْ حَتَّى ضَرَبَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ بِيَدِهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ لاِبْنِ صَيَّادٍ تَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ فَنَظَرَ إِلَيْهِ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ فَقَالَ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّكَ رَسُولُ الأُمِّيِّينَ فَقَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ لِلنَّبِيِّ ﷺ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ فَرَفَضَهُ وَقَالَ آمَنْتُ بِاللَّهِ وَبِرُسُلِهِ فَقَالَ لَهُ مَاذَا تَرَى قَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ يَأْتِينِي صَادِقٌ وَكَاذِبٌ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ خُلِّطَ عَلَيْكَ الأَمْرُ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ إِنِّي قَدْ خَبَأْتُ لَكَ خَبِيئًا فَقَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ هُوَ الدُّخُّ فَقَالَ اخْسَأْ فَلَنْ تَعْدُوَ قَدْرَكَ فَقَالَ عُمَرُ ؓ دَعْنِي يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَضْرِبْ عُنُقَهُ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ إِنْ يَكُنْهُ فَلَنْ تُسَلَّطَ عَلَيْهِ وَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْهُ فَلاَ خَيْرَ لَكَ فِي قَتْلِهِ وَقَالَ سَالِمٌ سَمِعْتُ ابْنَ عُمَرَ ؓ يَقُولُ انْطَلَقَ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ وَأُبَىُّ بْنُ كَعْبٍ إِلَى النَّخْلِ الَّتِي فِيهَا ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ وَهُوَ يَخْتِلُ أَنْ يَسْمَعَ مِنِ ابْنِ صَيَّادٍ شَيْئًا قَبْلَ أَنْ يَرَاهُ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ فَرَآهُ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ وَهُوَ مُضْطَجِعٌ يَعْنِي فِي قَطِيفَةٍ لَهُ فِيهَا رَمْزَةٌ أَوْ زَمْرَةٌ فَرَأَتْ أُمُّ ابْنِ صَيَّادٍ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ﷺ وَهُوَ يَتَّقِي بِجُذُوعِ النَّخْلِ فَقَالَتْ لاِبْنِ صَيَّادٍ يَا صَافِ وَهْوَ اسْمُ ابْنِ صَيَّادٍ هَذَا مُحَمَّدٌ ﷺ فَثَارَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ لَوْ تَرَكَتْهُ بَيَّنَ وَقَالَ شُعَيْبٌ فِي حَدِيثِهِ فَرَفَصَهُ رَمْرَمَةٌ أَوْ زَمْزَمَةٌ وَقَالَ إِسْحَاقُ الْكَلْبِيُّ وَعُقَيْلٌ رَمْرَمَةٌ وَقَالَ مَعْمَرٌ رَمْزَةٌ  

Umar and a group of the companions of the Prophet ﷺ set out with the Prophet to Ibn Saiyad. He found him playing with some boys near the hillocks of Bani Maghala. Ibn Saiyad at that time was nearing his puberty. He did not notice (the Prophet's presence) till the Prophet ﷺ stroked him on the back with his hand and said, "Ibn Saiyad! Do you testify that I am Messenger of Allah ﷺ?" Ibn Saiyad looked at him and said, "I testify that you are the Apostle of the illiterates." Then Ibn Saiyad asked the Prophet. "Do you testify that I am the apostle of Allah?" The Prophet ﷺ said to him, "I believe in Allah and His Apostles." Then the Prophet ﷺ said (to Ibn Saiyad). "What do you see?" Ibn Saiyad replied, "True people and false ones visit me." The Prophet said, "Your mind is confused as to this matter." The Prophet ﷺ added, " I have kept something (in my mind) for you." Ibn Saiyad said, "It is Ad-Dukh." The Prophet ﷺ said (to him), "Shame be on you! You cannot cross your limits." On that 'Umar said, "O Messenger of Allah ﷺ! Allow me to chop his head off." The Prophet ﷺ said, "If he should be him (i.e. Ad-Dajjal) then you cannot overpower him, and should he not be him, then you are not going to benefit by murdering him."  

أَنَّهُ أَخْبَرَهُ أَنَّ عُمَرَ انْطَلَقَ فِي رَهْطٍ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ مَعَ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ قِبَلَ ابْنِ صَيَّادٍ حَتَّى وَجَدُوهُ يَلْعَبُ مَعَ الْغِلْمَانِ عِنْدَ أُطُمِ بَنِي مَغَالَةَ وَقَدْ قَارَبَ يَوْمَئِذٍ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ يَحْتَلِمُ فَلَمْ يَشْعُرْ حَتَّى ضَرَبَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ ظَهْرَهُ بِيَدِهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ فَنَظَرَ إِلَيْهِ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ فَقَالَ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّكَ رَسُولُ الأُمِّيِّينَ فَقَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ لِلنَّبِيِّ ﷺ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ قَالَ لَهُ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ آمَنْتُ بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ مَاذَا تَرَى قَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ يَأْتِينِي صَادِقٌ وَكَاذِبٌ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ خُلِطَ عَلَيْكَ الأَمْرُ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ إِنِّي قَدْ خَبَأْتُ لَكَ خَبِيئًا قَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ هُوَ الدُّخُّ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ اخْسَأْ فَلَنْ تَعْدُوَ قَدْرَكَ قَالَ عُمَرُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ائْذَنْ لِي فِيهِ أَضْرِبْ عُنُقَهُ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ إِنْ يَكُنْهُ فَلَنْ تُسَلَّطَ عَلَيْهِ وَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْهُ فَلاَ خَيْرَ لَكَ فِي قَتْلِهِ  

“Do you testify that I am the Messenger of Allah?” So Ibn Sayyad looked at him, and said: 'I testify that you are the Messenger to the illiterates.'” He said: “Then Ibn Sayyad said to the Prophet ﷺ: 'Do you testify that I am the Messenger of Allah?' So the Prophet ﷺ said: 'I believe in Allah and His Messengers.' Then the Prophet ﷺ said: 'Who has come to you?' Ibn Sayyad said: 'A truthful one and a liar came to me.' So the Prophet ﷺ said: 'The matter has been confused for you.' Then the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: 'I have concealed something from you.' And he had concealed (the verse): The day when the sky will bring forth a visible smoke. Ibn Sayyad said: 'It is, “Ad-Dukh.'” So the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: 'Beat it! You can never surpass your ability.' ʿUmar said: 'O Messenger of Allah! Permit me to chop off his head!' The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: 'If he is indeed him, then you will never overpower him, and if he is not, then there is no good in you killing him.'” (Sahih)  

أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ﷺ مَرَّ بِابْنِ صَيَّادٍ فِي نَفَرٍ مِنْ أَصْحَابِهِ فِيهِمْ عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ وَهُوَ يَلْعَبُ مَعَ الْغِلْمَانِ عِنْدَ أُطُمِ بَنِي مَغَالَةَ وَهُوَ غُلاَمٌ فَلَمْ يَشْعُرْ حَتَّى ضَرَبَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ ظَهْرَهُ بِيَدِهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ فَنَظَرَ إِلَيْهِ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ فَقَالَ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّكَ رَسُولُ الأُمِّيِّينَ ثُمَّ قَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ لِلنَّبِيِّ ﷺ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنْتَ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ آمَنْتُ بِاللَّهِ وَبِرُسُلِهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ مَا يَأْتِيكَ قَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ يَأْتِينِي صَادِقٌ وَكَاذِبٌ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ خُلِّطَ عَلَيْكَ الأَمْرُ ثُمَّ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ إِنِّي خَبَأْتُ لَكَ خَبِيئًا وَخَبَأَ لَهُ (يَوْمَ تَأْتِي السَّمَاءُ بِدُخَانٍ مُبِينٍ ) فَقَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ هُوَ الدُّخُّ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ اخْسَأْ فَلَنْ تَعْدُوَ قَدْرَكَ قَالَ عُمَرُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ائْذَنْ لِي فَأَضْرِبَ عُنُقَهُ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ إِنْ يَكُ حَقًّا فَلَنْ تُسَلَّطَ عَلَيْهِ وَإِنْ لاَ يَكُنْهُ فَلاَ خَيْرَ لَكَ فِي قَتْلِهِ قَالَ عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ يَعْنِي الدَّجَّالَ  

The prophet ﷺ passed by Ibn Sa’Id along with some of his companions. ‘Umar b. al-Kattab was among them. He was playing with boys near the fortress of Banu Maghalah. He was near the age of puberty (i.e. a boy). Before he was aware, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ gave him a pat on the back and said : Do you testify that you are the Messenger of Allah Ibn Sayyad then looked at him and said: I testify that you are the Apostle of Gentiles. Ibn Sayyad then said the prophet ﷺ then asked him : What comes to you ? He replied: One who speaks the truth and one who lies come to me. The prophet (may peace upon him) said: You are confused. The Messenger of Allah (may peace upon him) said to him: I have concealed something (in my hand) and he concealed the verse “the day when the sky will bring forth smoke (dukhan) clearly visible Ibn Sayyad said: It is smoke (dukhan) .The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: Away with you, You cannot get farther than your rank. ‘Umar said: “Messenger of Allah, permit me to cut off his head. The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: If he is the one (the Dajjal), you will not be given power over him, and if he is not, you will not do well in killing him. (Using translation from Abū Dāʾūd 4329)  

أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ مَرَّ بِابْنِ صَيَّادٍ فِي نَفَرٍ مِنْ أَصْحَابِهِ فِيهِمْ عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ وَهُوَ يَلْعَبُ مَعَ الْغِلْمَانِ عِنْدَ أُطُمِ بَنِي مَغَالَةَ وَهُوَ غُلَامٌ فَلَمْ يَشْعُرْ حَتَّى ضَرَبَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ ظَهْرَهُ بِيَدِهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللهِ؟ فَنَظَرَ إِلَيْهِ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ فَقَالَ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّكَ رَسُولُ الْأُمِّيِّينَ ثُمَّ قَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ لِلنَّبِيِّ ﷺ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللهِ؟ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ آمَنْتُ بِاللهِ وَبِرُسُلِهِ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ مَا يَأْتِيكَ؟ قَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ يَأْتِينِيصَادِقٌ وَكَاذِبٌ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ خُلِطَ لَكَ الْأَمْرُ ثُمَّ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ إِنِّي قَدْ خَبَأْتُ لَكَ خَبِيئًا وَخَبَأَ لَهُ {يَوْمَ تَأْتِي السَّمَاءُ بِدُخَانٍ مُبِينٍ} [الدخان 10] فَقَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ هُوَ الدُّخُّ!! فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ اخْسَأْ فَلَنْ تَعْدُوَ قَدْرَكَ فَقَالَ عُمَرُ يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ ائْذَنْ لِي فِيهِ فَأَضْرِبَ عُنُقَهُ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ إِنْ يَكُنْ هُوَ فَلَنْ تُسَلَّطَ عَلَيْهِ وَإِنْ لَا يَكُنْ هُوَ فَلَا خَيْرَ لَكَ فِي قَتْلِهِ  

[Machine] He informed him that Umar set off with the Messenger of Allah ﷺ in a group led by Ibn Sayyad until they found him playing with the boys at the Uthum of Bani Maghala. Ibn Sayyad approached him on that day feeling important until the Messenger of Allah ﷺ struck him on the back with his hand. Then the Messenger of Allah ﷺ asked Ibn Sayyad, "Do you testify that I am the Messenger of Allah?" Ibn Sayyad said, "I testify that you are the Messenger of Allah." The Messenger of Allah ﷺ shook him and said, "I believe in Allah and His Messenger." Then the Messenger of Allah ﷺ asked him, "What do you see?" Ibn Sayyad said, "A truthful and a liar come to me." The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said to him, "The matter is confused for you." Then the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said to him, "I have hidden something for you." Ibn Sayyad said, "It is the Dukh." The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said to him, "Be doomed, as you will never exceed your limit." Umar ibn al-Khattab said to him, "Leave it, O Messenger of Allah, let me strike his neck." The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said to him, "If you catch him, you will not be able to dominate him, and if you do not catch him, there will be no good for you in killing him."  

أَخْبَرَهُ أَنَّ عُمَرَ انْطَلَقَ مَعَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ﷺ فِي رَهْطٍ قِبَلَ ابْنَ صَيَّادٍ حَتَّى وَجَدُوهُ يَلْعَبُ مَعَ الصِّبْيَانِ عِنْدَ أُطُمِ بَنِي مَغَالَةَ وَقَدْ قَارَبَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ يَوْمَئِذٍ الْحُلُمَ فَلَمْ يَشْعُرْ حَتَّى ضَرَبَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ﷺ ظَهْرَهُ بِيَدِهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ لِابْنِ صَيَّادٍ «أَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ؟ » فَقَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ فَرَفَصَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَقَالَ «آمَنْتُ بِاللَّهِ وَبِرَسُولِهِ» ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ «مَاذَا تَرَى؟ » قَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ يَأْتِينِي صَادِقٌ وَكَاذِبٌ قَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ «خُلِطَ عَلَيْكَ الْأَمْرُ» ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ «خَبَّأْتُ لَكَ خَبْأً» فَقَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ هُوَ الدُّخُّ فَقَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ «اخْسَأْ فَلَنْ تَعْدُوَ قَدْرَكَ» فَقَالَ لَهُ عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ دَعْنِي يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَضْرِبْ عُنُقَهُ فَقَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ «إِنْ أَدْرَكْتَهُ فَلَنْ تُسَلَّطَ عَلَيْهِ وَإِنْ لَمْ تُدْرِكْهُ فَلَا خَيْرَ لَكَ فِي قَتْلِهِ»  

It is related that 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar reported that 'Umar went with the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, with a group to visit Ibn Sayyad. They found him playing with some children in the hills of Banu Maghala. Ibn Sayyad, who was approaching puberty, did not notice them until the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, patted him with his hand and then said to him, 'Do you testify that I am the Messenger of Allah?' Ibn Sayyad looked at him and said, 'I testify that you are the Messenger of the unlettered.' Ibn Sayyad said to the Prophet, 'Do you testify that I am the Messenger of Allah?' He refuted it and said, 'I have believed in Allah and His Messengers.' Then he said to him, 'What dreams do you have?' Ibn Sayyad replied, 'Both truthful people and liars come to me.' The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'You are in a state of confusion.' Then the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said to him, 'I am concealing something from you.' Ibn Sayyad said, 'It is just smoke.' He said, 'Shame on you! You will not go too far.' 'Umar said, 'Messenger of Allah, let me cut his head off?' The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'If it is him (i.e. the Dajjal), you will not be able to get the better of him. If it is not him, there is no point in killing him.'"  

أَخْبَرَهُ أَنَّ عُمَرَ بْنَ الْخَطَّابِ انْطَلَقَ مَعَ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ فِي رَهْطٍ مِنْ أَصْحَابِهِ قِبَلَ ابْنِ صَيَّادٍ حَتَّى وَجَدُوهُ يَلْعَبُ مَعَ الْغِلْمَانِ فِي أُطُمِ بَنِي مَغَالَةَ وَقَدْ قَارَبَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ يَوْمَئِذٍ الْحُلُمَ فَلَمْ يَشْعُرْ حَتَّى ضَرَبَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ ظَهْرَهُ بِيَدِهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللهِ؟ فَنَظَرَ إِلَيْهِ فَقَالَ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّكَ رَسُولُ الأُمِّيِّينَ قَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ فَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللهِ؟ فَرَصَّهُ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ ثُمَّ قَالَ آمَنْتُ بِاللَّهِ وَبِرَسُولِهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ لِابْنِ صَيَّادٍ مَاذَا تَرَى؟ فَقَالَ ابْنُ صَيَّادٍ يَأْتِينِي صَادِقٌ وَكَاذِبٌ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ خُلِّطَ عَلَيْكَ الأَمْرُ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ إِنِّي خَبَّأْتُ لَكَ خَبِيئًا قَالَ هُوَ الدُّخُّ قَالَ اخْسَأْ فَلَمْ تَعْدُ قَدْرَكَ قَالَ عُمَرُ يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ أَتَأْذَنُ لِي فِيهِ أَنْ أَضْرِبَ عُنُقَهُ؟ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ إِنْ يَكُ هُوَ لاَ تُسَلَّطُ عَلَيْهِ وَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُ هُوَ فَلاَ خَيْرَ لَكَ فِي قَتْلِهِ