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hakim:482Abū Bakr Muḥammad b. ʿAbdullāh b. al-Jarrāḥ al-ʿAdl al-Ḥāfiẓ Bimarw > ʿAbdullāh b. Yaḥyá al-Qāḍī al-Sarakhsī > Rajāʾ b. Murajjá al-Ḥāfiẓ

[Machine] Yahya was not convinced of that until he brought Busra and asked her, and she confirmed it through conversation. Then Yahya said, "People have talked a lot about Qais ibn Talq and that his narration is not reliable." Ahmad ibn Hanbal said, "Both statements are accepted." Then Yahya said, "Malik narrated from Nafi' that Ibn 'Umar performed ablution after touching his private parts." Ali said, "Ibn Mas'ud used to say, 'You do not need to perform ablution after touching it; it is just a part of your body.'" Yahya said, "Who narrated from whom?" He said, "Sufyan related from Abu Qais, from Huzail, from Abdullah." Ibn Mas'ud and Ibn 'Umar disagreed, and Ibn Mas'ud had more right to be followed. Ahmad bin Hanbal said to him, "Yes, but Abu Qais Al-Awdi's narration is not reliable." Ali said, "Abu Nuaym told me, narrated by Misaar, from Umayr bin Sa'id, from Ammar bin Yasir, he said, 'I do not care if I touch it or not.'" Ahmad said, "Both Umayr and Ammar hold equal positions, so whoever wishes can follow this opinion, and whoever wishes can follow that opinion." Then Yahya said, "Between Umayr bin Sa'id and Ammar bin Yasir, there is a difference of opinion."  

الحاكم:٤٨٢حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرٍ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ الْجَرَّاحِ الْعَدْلُ الْحَافِظُ بِمَرْوَ ثنا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ يَحْيَى الْقَاضِي السَّرَخْسِيُّ ثنا رَجَاءُ بْنُ مُرَجًّى الْحَافِظُ قَالَ اجْتَمَعْنَا فِي مَسْجِدِ الْخَيْفِ أَنَا وَأَحْمَدُ بْنُ حَنْبَلٍ وَعَلِيُّ بْنُ الْمَدِينِيِّ وَيَحْيَى بْنُ مَعِينٍ فَتَنَاظَرُوا فِي مَسِّ الذَّكَرِ فَقَالَ يَحْيَى بْنُ مَعِينٍ يَتَوَضَّأُ مِنْهُ وَقَالَ عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْمَدِينِيِّ بِقَوْلِ الْكُوفِيِّينَ وَتَقَلَّدَ قَوْلَهُمْ وَاحْتَجَّ يَحْيَى بْنُ مَعِينٍ بِحَدِيثِ بُسْرَةَ بِنْتِ صَفْوَانَ وَاحْتَجَّ عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْمَدِينِيِّ بِحَدِيثِ قَيْسِ بْنِ طَلْقٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ وَقَالَ لِيَحْيَى بْنِ مَعِينٍ كَيْفَ تَتَقَلَّدُ إِسْنَادَ بُسْرَةَ وَمَرْوَانُ إِنَّمَا أُرْسِلَ شُرْطِيًّا حَتَّى رَدَّ جَوَابَهَا إِلَيْهِ فَقَالَ

يَحْيَى ثُمَّ لَمْ يُقْنِعْ ذَلِكَ عُرْوَةَ حَتَّى أَتَى بُسْرَةَ فَسَأَلَهَا وَشَافَهَتْهُ بِالْحَدِيثِ ثُمَّ قَالَ يَحْيَى وَلَقَدْ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسُ فِي قَيْسِ بْنِ طَلْقٍ وَأَنَّهُ لَا يُحْتَجُّ بِحَدِيثِهِ فَقَالَ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ حَنْبَلٍ كِلَا الْأَمْرَيْنِ عَلَى مَا قُلْتُمَا فَقَالَ يَحْيَى مَالِكٌ عَنْ نَافِعٍ عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ أَنَّهُ تَوَضَّأَ مِنْ مَسِّ الذَّكَرِ فَقَالَ عَلِيٌّ كَانَ ابْنُ مَسْعُودٍ يَقُولُ لَا يُتَوَضَّأُ مِنْهُ وَإِنَّمَا هُوَ بَضْعَةٌ مِنْ جَسَدِكَ فَقَالَ يَحْيَى عَنْ مَنْ فَقَالَ عَنْ سُفْيَانَ عَنْ أَبِي قَيْسٍ عَنْ هُزَيْلٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ وَإِذَا اجْتَمَعَ ابْنُ مَسْعُودٍ وَابْنُ عُمَرَ وَاخْتَلَفَا فَابْنُ مَسْعُودٍ أَوْلَى أَنْ يُتَّبَعَ فَقَالَ لَهُ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ حَنْبَلٍ نَعَمْ وَلَكِنْ أَبُو قَيْسٍ الْأَوْدِيُّ لَا يُحْتَجُّ بِحَدِيثِهِ فَقَالَ عَلِيٌّ حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو نُعَيْمٍ ثنا مِسْعَرٌ عَنْ عُمَيْرِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ عَنْ عَمَّارِ بْنِ يَاسِرٍ قَالَ مَا أُبَالِي مَسِسْتُهُ أَوْ أتَّقِي فَقَالَ أَحْمَدُ عَمَّارُ وَابْنُ عُمَرَ اسْتَوَيَا فَمَنْ شَاءَ أَخَذَ بِهَذَا وَمَنْ شَاءَ أَخَذَ بِهَذَا فَقَالَ يَحْيَى بَيْنَ عُمَيْرِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ وَعَمَّارِ بْنِ يَاسِرٍ مَفَازَةٌ  


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bayhaqi:648Abū ʿAbdullāh al-Ḥāfiẓ > Abū Bakr Muḥammad b. ʿAbdullāh al-Jarrāḥī al-ʿAdl al-Ḥāfiẓ Bimarw > ʿAbdullāh b. Yaḥyá al-Qāḍī al-Sarakhsī > Rajāʾ b. Murajjá al-Ḥāfiẓ

[Machine] Yahya then did not convince Uruwah of that until he came to Busrah, so he asked her and she narrated to him the story. Then Yahya said, "Indeed, people have differed regarding Qais ibn Talq and it is not sufficient to rely on his narration." Ahmad ibn Hanbal said, "Both of you are correct in what you have said." Yahya asked, "Who narrated this?" He said, "It is narrated by Sufyan from Abu Qais from Huzayl from Abdullah." And when Ibn Mas'ood and Ibn Umar gathered and differed, Ibn Mas'ood was more deserving to be followed. Ahmad ibn Hanbal said to him, "Yes, but Abu Qais al-Awdi cannot be relied upon in his narration." Ali said, "Abu Nuaim narrated to me from Mesar from Umair bin Said from Ammar, he said, 'I do not care if it touched my hand or my nose.'" Yahya said, "Between Umair bin Said and Ammar bin Yasir is a serious contradiction." Abu Bakr ibn al-Harith al-Faqih informed us, Ali ibn Omar al-Hafiz informed us, Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Naqqash informed us, Abdullah ibn Yahya al-Qadi al-Sarakhsi mentioned it with its chain and some of its meanings. And he said in the end, in the narration of Umair bin Said from Ammar, Ahmed said, "Ammar and Ibn Umar are equal, so whoever wishes can take this, and whoever wishes can take that." The Sheikh said, "We have narrated from Ali ibn al-Madini that he said about the narration of Busrah, the hearing of Uruwah from it, as Yahya bin Ma'een said, and it seems that he returned in that to the statement of Yahya and the adoption of the narration of Busrah."  

البيهقي:٦٤٨أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو عَبْدِ اللهِ الْحَافِظُ حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو بَكْرٍ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللهِ الْجَرَّاحِيُّ الْعَدْلُ الْحَافِظُ بِمَرْوَ نا عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ يَحْيَى الْقَاضِي السَّرَخْسِيُّ ثنا رَجَاءُ بْنُ مُرَجًّى الْحَافِظُ قَالَ اجْتَمَعْنَا فِي مَسْجِدِ الْخَيْفِ أَنَا وَأَحْمَدُ بْنُ حَنْبَلٍ وَعَلِيُّ بْنُ الْمَدِينِيِّ وَيَحْيَى بْنُ مَعِينٍ فَتَنَاظَرُوا فِي مَسِّ الذَّكَرِ فَقَالَ يَحْيَى بْنُ مَعِينٍ يُتَوَضَّأُ مِنْهُ وَتَقَلَّدَ عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْمَدِينِيِّ قَوْلَ الْكُوفِيِّينَ وَقَالَ بِهِ وَاحْتَجَّ ابْنُ مَعِينٍ بِحَدِيثِ بُسْرَةَ بِنْتِ صَفْوَانَ وَاحْتَجَّ عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْمَدِينِيِّ بِحَدِيثِ قَيْسِ بْنِ طَلْقٍ وَقَالَ لِيَحْيَى كَيْفَ تَتَقَلَّدُ إِسْنَادَ بُسْرَةَ وَمَرْوَانُ بْنُ الْحَكَمِ أَرْسَلَ شُرْطِيًّا حَتَّى رَدَّ جَوَابَهَا إِلَيْهِ فَقَالَ

يَحْيَى ثُمَّ لَمْ يُقْنِعْ ذَلِكَ عُرْوَةَ حَتَّى أَتَى بُسْرَةَ فَسَأَلَهَا وَشَافَهَتْهُ بِالْحَدِيثِ ثُمَّ قَالَ يَحْيَى وَلَقَدْ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسُ فِي قَيْسِ بْنِ طَلْقٍ وَأَنَّهُ لَا يُحْتَجُّ بِحَدِيثِهِ فَقَالَ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ حَنْبَلٍ كِلَا الْأَمْرَيْنِ عَلَى مَا قُلْتُمَا فَقَالَ يَحْيَى عَنْ مَالِكٍ عَنْ نَافِعٍ عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ يُتَوَضَّأُ مِنْ مَسِّ الذَّكَرِ فَقَالَ عَلِيٌّ كَانَ ابْنُ مَسْعُودٍ يَقُولُ لَا يُتَوَضَّأُ مِنْهُ وَإِنَّمَا هُوَ بَضْعَةٌ مِنْ جَسَدِكَ قَالَ فَقَالَ يَحْيَى هَذَا عَمَّنْ؟ فَقَالَ عَنْ سُفْيَانَ عَنْ أَبِي قَيْسٍ عَنْ هُزَيْلٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ وَإِذَا اجْتَمَعَ ابْنُ مَسْعُودٍ وَابْنُ عُمَرَ وَاخْتَلَفَا فَابْنُ مَسْعُودٍ أَوْلَى أَنْ يُتَّبَعَ فَقَالَ لَهُ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ حَنْبَلٍ نَعَمْ وَلَكِنَّ أَبَا قَيْسٍ الْأَوْدِيَّ لَا يُحْتَجُّ بِحَدِيثِهِ فَقَالَ عَلِيٌّ حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو نُعَيْمٍ ثنا مِسْعَرٌ عَنْ عُمَيْرِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ عَنْ عَمَّارٍ قَالَ لَا أُبَالِي مَسَسْتُهُ أَوْ أَنْفِي فَقَالَ يَحْيَى بَيْنَ عُمَيْرِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ وَعَمَّارِ بْنِ يَاسِرٍ مَفَازَةٌ 649 أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ الْحَارِثِ الْفَقِيهُ ثنا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عُمَرَ الْحَافِظُ ثنا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ النَّقَّاشُ ثنا عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ يَحْيَى الْقَاضِي السَّرَخْسِيُّ فَذَكَرَهُ بِإِسْنَادِهِ وَبَعْضِ مَعْنَاهُ وَقَالَ فِي آخِرِهِ فِي حَدِيثِ عُمَيْرِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ عَنْ عَمَّارٍ فَقَالَ أَحْمَدُ عَمَّارٌ وَابْنُ عُمَرَ اسْتَوَيَا فَمَنْ شَاءَ أَخَذَ بِهَذَا وَمَنْ شَاءَ أَخَذَ بِهَذَا قَالَ الشَّيْخُ قَدْ رُوِّينَا عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ الْمَدِينِيِّ أَنَّهُ قَالَ فِي حَدِيثِ بُسْرَةَ سَمَاعُ عُرْوَةَ مِنْهَا كَمَا قَالَ يَحْيَى بْنُ مَعِينٍ وَكَأَنَّهُ رَجَعَ فِي ذَلِكَ إِلَى قَوْلِ يَحْيَى وَتَقْلِيدِ حَدِيثِ بُسْرَةَ