[Machine] If a mouse falls into a well and dies in it, a bucket or two buckets are taken out of it. If it decomposes, then five or seven are taken out of it, and this is also uncertain. The Hafiz Abu Abdullah narrated to us, and Abu al-Abbas informed us that Rabee narrated to us, and Al-Shafi'i mentioned in his argument that Ali and Ibn Abbas argued that contradicted what was reported from the Messenger of Allah ﷺ regarding the saying of someone else. I said, "So you oppose what came from the Messenger of Allah ﷺ to the words of others?" He said, "No." I said, "You have indeed done so and opposed Ali and Ibn Abbas, claiming that Ali said: 'If a mouse falls into a well, five or seven bailouts are taken out of it,' and claimed that it does not become pure except with twenty or thirty, and claimed that Ibn Abbas took out water from Zamzam from a jug that a black person fell into it, and you say that forty or sixty buckets are enough, and this is from Ali and Ibn Abbas, which is not proven."  

إِذَا وَقَعَتِ الْفَأْرَةُ فِي الْبِئْرِ فَمَاتَتْ فِيهَا نُزِحَ مِنْهَا دَلْوٌ أَوْ دَلْوَانِ يَعْنِي فَإِنْ تَفَسَّخَتْ يُنْزَحُ مِنْهَا خَمْسَةٌ أَوْ سَبْعَةٌ وَهَذَا أَيْضًا مُنْقَطِعٌ 1271 أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو عَبْدِ اللهِ الْحَافِظُ ثنا أَبُو الْعَبَّاسِ أنبأ الرَّبِيعُ أنبأ الشَّافِعِيُّ فِي احْتِجَاجِ مَنِ احْتَجَّ بِالْأَثَرِ عَنْ عَلِيٍّ وَابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ قُلْتُ فَيُخَالِفُ مَا جَاءَ عَنْ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ إِلَى قَوْلِ غَيْرِهِ قَالَ لَا قُلْتُ قَدْ فَعَلْتَ وَخَالَفْتَ مَعَ ذَلِكَ عَلِيًّا وَابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ زَعَمْتَ أَنَّ عَلِيًّا قَالَ إِذَا وَقَعَتِ الْفَأْرَةُ فِي الْبِئْرِ تُنْزَحُ مِنْهَا خَمْسَةُ أَوْ سَبْعَةُ أَدَلَاءٍ وَزَعَمَتْ أَنَّهَا لَا تَطْهُرُ إِلَّا بِعِشْرِينَ أَوْ ثَلَاثِينَ وَزَعَمَتْ أَنَّ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ نَزَحَ زَمْزَمَ مِنْ زِنْجِيٍّ وَقَعَ فِيهَا وَأَنْتَ تَقُولُ يَكْفِي مِنْ ذَلِكَ أَرْبَعُونَ أَوْ سِتُّونَ دَلْوًا وَهَذَا عَنْ عَلِيٍّ وَعَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ غَيْرُ ثَابِتٍ