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ahmad:1020ʿAbd al-Raḥman > Sufyān > Abū Hāshim al-Qāsim b. Kathīr

I heard ‘Ali ؓ say: The Messenger of Allah ﷺ came first, followed by Abu Bakr, and the third one was ‘Umar ؓ . Then turmoil (fitnah) struck us, and that is what Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, willed. Abu ‘Abdur-Rahman said; My father said regarding the words, then turmoil (fitnah) struck us. He [ʿAli] was showing modesty thereby.  

أحمد:١٠٢٠حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ عَنْ سُفْيَانَ عَنْ أَبِي هَاشِمٍ الْقَاسِمِ بْنِ كَثِيرٍ عَنْ قَيْسٍ الْخَارِفِيِّ قَالَ

سَمِعْتُ عَلِيًّا يَقُولُ سَبَقَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ وَصَلَّى أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَثَلَّثَ عُمَرُ ثُمَّ خَبَطَتْنَا أَوْ أَصَابَتْنَا فِتْنَةٌ فَمَا شَاءَ اللهُ جَلَّ جَلالُهُ قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ قَالَ أَبِي قَوْلُهُ ثُمَّ خَبَطَتْنَا فِتْنَةٌ أَرَادَ أَنْ يَتَوَاضَعَ بِذَلِكَ  


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ahmad:1259Abū Nuʿaym > Sufyān > al-Qāsim b. Kathīr Abū Hāshim Bayyāʿ al-Sābirī

I heard ‘Ali ؓ say on this minbar. The Messenger of Allah ﷺ came first, Abu Bakr ؓ came second and ʿUmar ؓ came third; then we got involved in turmoil, and it was what Allah willed.  

أحمد:١٢٥٩حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو نُعَيْمٍ حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ عَنِ الْقَاسِمِ بْنِ كَثِيرٍ أَبِي هَاشِمٍ بَيَّاعِ السَّابِرِيِّ عَنْ قَيْسٍ الْخَارِفِيِّ قَالَ

سَمِعْتُ عَلِيًّا يَقُولُ عَلَى هَذَا الْمِنْبَرِ سَبَقَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ وَصَلَّى أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَثَلَّثَ عُمَرُ ثُمَّ خَبَطَتْنَا فِتْنَةٌ أَوْ أَصَابَتْنَا فِتْنَةٌ فَكَانَ مَا شَاءَ اللهُ