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muslim:1594dIsḥāq b. Ibrāhīm > ʿAbd al-Aʿlá > Dāwud > Abū Naḍrah > Saʾalt Ibn ʿUmar And Ibn ʿAbbās

I asked Ibn Umar and Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with them) about the conversion of gold with gold but they did not find any harm in that. I was sitting in the company of Abd Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) and asked him about this exchange, and he said: Whatever is addition is an' interest. I refused to accept it on account of their statement (statement of Ibn 'Abbas and Ibn 'Umar). He said: I am not narrating to you except what I heard from Messenger of Allah ﷺ. There came to him the owner of a date-palm with one sa' of fine dates, and the dates of Allah's Apostle ﷺ were of that colour. Allah's Apostle ﷺ said to him: Where did you get these dates? I went with two sa's of (inferior dates) and bought one sa' of (these fine dates), for that is the prevailing price (of inferior dates) in the market and that is the price (of the fine quality of dates in the market), whereupon Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: Woe be upon you! You have dealt in interest, when you decide to do it (i. e. exchange superior quality of dates for inferior quality) ; so you should sell your dates for another commodity (or currency) and then with the help of that commodity buy the dates you like. Abu Sa'ad said: When dates are exchanged for dates (with different qualities) there is the possibility (of the element of) interest (creeping into that) or when gold is exchanged for gold having different qualities. I subsequently came to Ibn 'Umar and he forbade me (to do it), but I did not come to Ibn 'Abbas; (Allah be pleased with them). He (the narrator) said: Abu as-Sahba' narrated to me: He asked Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with them) in Mecca, and he too disapproved of it.  

مسلم:١٥٩٤dحَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ الأَعْلَى أَخْبَرَنَا دَاوُدُ عَنْ أَبِي نَضْرَةَ قَالَ سَأَلْتُ ابْنَ عُمَرَ وَابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ

عَنِ الصَّرْفِ فَلَمْ يَرَيَا بِهِ بَأْسًا فَإِنِّي لَقَاعِدٌ عِنْدَ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ فَسَأَلْتُهُ عَنِ الصَّرْفِ فَقَالَ مَا زَادَ فَهُوَ رِبًا فَأَنْكَرْتُ ذَلِكَ لِقَوْلِهِمَا فَقَالَ لاَ أُحَدِّثُكَ إِلاَّ مَا سَمِعْتُ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ﷺ جَاءَهُ صَاحِبُ نَخْلِهِ بِصَاعٍ مِنْ تَمْرٍ طَيِّبٍ وَكَانَ تَمْرُ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ هَذَا اللَّوْنَ فَقَالَ لَهُ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ أَنَّى لَكَ هَذَا قَالَ انْطَلَقْتُ بِصَاعَيْنِ فَاشْتَرَيْتُ بِهِ هَذَا الصَّاعَ فَإِنَّ سِعْرَ هَذَا فِي السُّوقِ كَذَا وَسِعْرَ هَذَا كَذَا فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ وَيْلَكَ أَرْبَيْتَ إِذَا أَرَدْتَ ذَلِكَ فَبِعْ تَمْرَكَ بِسِلْعَةٍ ثُمَّ اشْتَرِ بِسِلْعَتِكَ أَىَّ تَمْرٍ شِئْتَ قَالَ أَبُو سَعِيدٍ فَالتَّمْرُ بِالتَّمْرِ أَحَقُّ أَنْ يَكُونَ رِبًا أَمِ الْفِضَّةُ بِالْفِضَّةِ قَالَ فَأَتَيْتُ ابْنَ عُمَرَ بَعْدُ فَنَهَانِي وَلَمْ آتِ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ قَالَ فَحَدَّثَنِي أَبُو الصَّهْبَاءِ أَنَّهُ سَأَلَ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ عَنْهُ بِمَكَّةَ فَكَرِهَهُ  


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bayhaqi:10499Abū ʿAbdullāh al-Ḥāfiẓ > Abū al-Faḍl b. Ibrāhīm > Aḥmad b. Salamah > Isḥāq b. Ibrāhīm > ʿAbd al-Aʿlá > Dāwud b. Abū Hind > Abū Naḍrah > Saʾalt Ibn ʿUmar And Ibn ʿAbbās

I asked Ibn Umar and Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with them) about the conversion of gold with gold but they did not find any harm in that. I was sitting in the company of Abd Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) and asked him about this exchange, and he said: Whatever is addition is an' interest. I refused to accept it on account of their statement (statement of Ibn 'Abbas and Ibn 'Umar). He said: I am not narrating to you except what I heard from Messenger of Allah ﷺ. There came to him the owner of a date-palm with one sa' of fine dates, and the dates of Allah's Apostle ﷺ were of that colour. Allah's Apostle ﷺ said to him: Where did you get these dates? I went with two sa's of (inferior dates) and bought one sa' of (these fine dates), for that is the prevailing price (of inferior dates) in the market and that is the price (of the fine quality of dates in the market), whereupon Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: Woe be upon you! You have dealt in interest, when you decide to do it (i. e. exchange superior quality of dates for inferior quality) ; so you should sell your dates for another commodity (or currency) and then with the help of that commodity buy the dates you like. Abu Sa'ad said: When dates are exchanged for dates (with different qualities) there is the possibility (of the element of) interest (creeping into that) or when gold is exchanged for gold having different qualities. I subsequently came to Ibn 'Umar and he forbade me (to do it), but I did not come to Ibn 'Abbas; (Allah be pleased with them). He (the narrator) said: Abu as-Sahba' narrated to me: He asked Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with them) in Mecca, and he too disapproved of it. (Using translation from Muslim 1594d)   

البيهقي:١٠٤٩٩أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو عَبْدِ اللهِ الْحَافِظُ أنا أَبُو الْفَضْلِ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ ثنا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَ ثنا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ أنا عَبْدُ الْأَعْلَى ثنا دَاوُدُ بْنُ أَبِي هِنْدَ عَنْ أَبِي نَضْرَةَ قَالَ سَأَلْتُ ابْنَ عُمَرَ وَابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ

عَنِ الصَّرْفِ فَلَمْ يَرَيَا بِهِ بَأْسًا وَإِنِّي لَقَاعِدٌ عِنْدَ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ فَسَأَلْتُهُ عَنِ الصَّرْفِ فَقَالَ مَا زَادَ فَهُوَ رِبًا فَأَنْكَرْتُ ذَلِكَ لِقَوْلِهِمَا فَقَالَ لَا أُحَدِّثُكُمْ إِلَّا مَا سَمِعْتُ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ جَاءَهُ صَاحِبُ نَخْلَةٍ بِصَاعٍ مِنْ تَمْرٍ طَيِّبٍ وَكَانَ تَمْرُ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ هُوَ الدُّونَ فَقَالَ لَهُ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ أَنَّى لَكَ هَذَا؟ قَالَ انْطَلَقْتُ بِصَاعِي وَاشْتَرَيْتُ بِهِ هَذَا الصَّاعَ فَإِنَّ سِعْرَ هَذَا بِالسُّوقِ كَذَا وَسِعْرَ هَذَا بِالسُّوقِ كَذَا فَقَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ أَرْبَيْتَ إِذَا أَرَدْتَ ذَلِكَ فَبِعْ تَمْرَكَ بِسِلْعَةٍ ثُمَّ اشْتَرِ بِسِلْعَتِكَ أِيَّ تَمْرٍ شِئْتَ فَقَالَ أَبُو سَعِيدٍ فَالتَّمْرُ بِالتَّمْرِ أَحَقُّ أَنْ يَكُونَ رِبًا وَالْفِضَّةُ بِالْفِضَّةِ قَالَ فَأَتَيْتُ ابْنَ عُمَرَ بَعْدُ فَنَهَانِي وَلَمْ آتِ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ قَالَ فَحَدَّثَنِي أَبُو الصَّهْبَاءِ أَنَّهُ سَأَلَ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ عَنْهُ فَكَرِهَهُ  

رَوَاهُ مُسْلِمٌ فِي الصَّحِيحِ عَنْ إِسْحَاقَ بْنِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَقَالَ وَكَانَ تَمْرُ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ هَذَا اللَّوْنَ
bayhaqi:10520Abū Saʿd Aḥmad b. Muḥammad al-Mālīnī > Abū Aḥmad b. ʿAdī al-Ḥāfiẓ > Abū Yaʿlá > Ibrāhīm b. al-Ḥajjāj > Ḥayyān b. ʿUbaydullāh Abū Zuhayr > Suʾil Abū Mijlaz Lāḥiq b. Ḥumayd > al-Ṣarf > Shāhid

[Machine] Abu Ahmad (father of Ahmad) this hadith is from the narration of Abu Majlaz who was distinguished by Hayyan. I said: Hayyan, did you speak about it? It is said about his saying and likewise, Al-Mizan in the first hadith is from Abu Sa'id al-Khudri. And likewise, this word, if it is correct, is deduced by the narration of Dawud bin Abi Hind from Abu Nadrah from Abu Sa'id al-Khudri in his argument against Ibn 'Abbas with the story of dates. He said: The Messenger of Allah, ﷺ , said: "If you wish to do that, then sell your dates for goods, then buy with your goods any dates you want." Abu Sa'id said: "So, are dates with dates more rightful to be a riba (usury) or silver with silver?" So, this was a qiyas (analogy) from Abu Sa'id for silver on dates, on which a story was narrated, except that some of..  

البيهقي:١٠٥٢٠وَأَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو سَعْدٍ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ الْمَالِينِيُّ أنا أَبُو أَحْمَدَ بْنُ عَدِيٍّ الْحَافِظُ ثنا أَبُو يَعْلَى ثنا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ الْحَجَّاجِ ثنا حَيَّانُ بْنُ عُبَيْدِ اللهِ أَبُو زُهَيْرٍ قَالَ سُئِلَ أَبُو مِجْلَزٍ لَاحِقُ بْنُ حُمَيْدٍ عَنِ الصَّرْفِ وَأَنَا شَاهِدٌ فَقَالَ كَانَ ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ يَقُولُ زَمَانًا مِنْ عُمْرِهِ لَا بَأْسَ بِمَا كَانَ مِنْهُ يَدًا بِيَدٍ وَكَانَ يَقُولُ إِنَّمَا الرِّبَا فِي النَّسِيئَةِ حَتَّى لَقِيَهُ أَبُو سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيُّ فَذَكَرَ الْحَدِيثَ بِنَحْوِهِ إِلَّا أَنَّهُ قَالَ عَيْنٌ بِعَيْنٍ مِثْلٌ بِمِثْلٍ فَمَنْ زَادَ فَهُوَ رِبًا قَالَ وَكُلُّ مَا يُكَالُ أَوْ يُوزَنُ فَكَذَلِكَ أَيْضًا قَالَ فَقَالَ ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ جَزَاكَ اللهُ يَا أَبَا سَعِيدٍ عَنِّي الْجَنَّةَ فَإِنَّكَ ذَكَّرْتَنِي أَمْرًا كُنْتُ نَسِيتُهُ أَسْتَغْفِرُ اللهَ وَأَتُوبُ إِلَيْهِ وَكَانَ يَنْهَى عَنْهُ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ أَشَدَّ النَّهْيِ قَالَ

أَبُو أَحْمَدَ هَذَا الْحَدِيثُ مِنْ حَدِيثِ أَبِي مِجْلَزٍ تَفَرَّدَ بِهِ حَيَّانُ قُلْتُ حَيَّانُ تَكَلَّمُوا فِيهِ وَيُقَالُ فِي قَوْلِهِ وَكَذَلِكَ الْمِيزَانُ فِي الْحَدِيثِ الْأَوَّلِ أَنَّهُ مِنْ جِهَةِ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ وَكَذَلِكَ هَذِهِ اللَّفْظَةُ إِنْ صَحَّتْ وَيُسْتَدَلُّ عَلَيْهِ بِرِوَايَةِ دَاوُدَ بْنِ أَبِي هِنْدَ عَنْ أَبِي نَضْرَةَ عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ فِي احْتِجَاجِهِ عَلَى ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ بِقِصَّةِ التَّمْرِ قَالَ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ أَرْبَيْتَ إِذَا أَرَدْتَ ذَلِكَ فَبِعْ تَمْرَكَ بِسِلْعَةٍ ثُمَّ اشْتَرِ بِسِلْعَتِكَ أِيَّ تَمْرٍ شِئْتَ قَالَ أَبُو سَعِيدٍ فَالتَّمْرُ بِالتَّمْرِ أَحَقُّ أَنْ يَكُونَ رِبًا أَمِ الْفِضَّةُ بِالْفِضَّةِ؟ فَكَانَ هَذَا قِيَاسًا مِنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ لِلْفِضَّةِ عَلَى التَّمْرِ الَّذِي رُوِيَ فِيهِ قِصَّةٌ إِلَّا أَنَّ بَعْضَ الرُّوَاةِ  

رَوَاهُ مُفَسَّرًا مَفْصُولًا وَبَعْضُهُمْ رَوَاهُ مُجْمَلًا مَوْصُولًا وَاللهُ أَعْلَمُ