[Machine] That the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: The dirham is to be exchanged for a dirham and the dinar for a dinar, like for like, with no surplus between them. I said to Abu Sa'eed: I heard Ibn Abbas say that there is no harm in it. Abu Sa'eed said: I met Ibn Abbas and asked him about this matter. Did you find anything about it in the Book of Allah or did you hear it from the Messenger of Allah ﷺ ? He said: I did not find anything about it in the Book of Allah, nor did I hear it from the Messenger of Allah ﷺ . And you are more knowledgeable than the Messenger of Allah ﷺ and me. But Usamah ibn Zaid told me that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: Verily, riba is in the exchange of gold for silver.  

أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ قَالَ الدِّرْهَمُ بِالدِّرْهَمِ وَالدِّينَارُ بِالدِّينَارِ مِثْلًا بِمِثْلٍ لَيْسَ بَيْنَهُمَا فَضْلٌ قُلْتُ لِأَبِي سَعِيدٍ كَانَ ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ لَا يَرَى بِهِ بَأْسًا فَقَالَ أَبُو سَعِيدٍ قَدْ لَقِيتُ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ أَخْبِرْنِي عَنْ هَذَا الَّذِي تَقُولُ أَشَيْءٌ وَجَدْتَهُ فِي كِتَابِ اللهِ أَوْ شَيْءٌ سَمِعْتَهُ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ؟ فَقَالَ مَا وَجَدْتُهُ فِي كِتَابِ اللهِ وَلَا سَمِعْتُهُ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ وَلَأَنْتُمْ أَعْلَمُ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ مِنِّي وَلَكِنْ أَخْبَرَنِي أُسَامَةُ بْنُ زَيْدٍ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ قَالَ إِنَّ الرِّبَا فِي النَّسِيئَةِ